ericjwin's Physical Absorb/Immune Summary
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the trick is to move outside the current trend
ill leave your with two thoughts.
ever had a high level killed by a monster ever thought hmmmmmmm What is that damage???
and secondly Mana lock you do the extrapolation no more clues on that one
plain and simple: there is no such thing as a "best damage". all PA's absorb different damages and are killed by different damages. There are 4 main kinds of PA: low damage kills, medium damage kills, high damage kills, and every other damage kills (or every third damage, usually a pattern). the most common are low damage kills and every other (or third or fourth etc...pattern PA's) damage kills. I'd say your best bet would be to stick with a medium damage like
1-145000000 because that seems to typically kill well, and if it doesn't, it's a middle damage so u can just remove a damage charm or add a damage charm to attain a high or low damage. in my opinion that is your best bet as a damage.
also, my favorite element is poison damage. i rely heavily on that, however sometimes it just doesn't cut it. typically it does, but it all depends on your opponent.
try using 2 or 3 charms of 3 elemental absorbs but make some with different bocl valuer make like 5 different values n test
Example
-1 bocl all elemnts (just 1charm)
-20 bocl all elemnts (just 1charm)
-37 bocl all elemnts (just 1charm)
-45 bocl all elemnts (just 1charm)
-63 bocl all elemnts (just 1charm)
-1 & 1 bocl all elenents (2 charms)
-1 & 20 bocl all elenents (2 charms)
-1 & 37 bocl all elenents (2 charms)
-1 & 45 bocl all elenents (2 charms)
-1 & 63 bocl all elenents (2 charms)
-20 & 20 bocl all elements (2 charms)
-20 & 37 bocl all elements (2 charms)
-20 & 45 bocl all elements (2 charms)
-20 & 63 bocl all elements (2 charms)
See the pattern?? just try it like that but keep going further into like 3 or 4 charm settings if u have no luck
Ok man, start it a little more simple lol. Take a 63 , 30 and 1, it will be easier for you to get abs that way. Try making some fire/light abs charms and when you die, add a cold. Its simple enough, you just have to have many counters, my suggestion is if your gonna duel on the ladder, have at least 5 good "pa's" or you'll be slaughtered.
if your wanting to make a supreme use a lvl within the 2.146 bill range to start u off, those lvls are the easiest to obtain pa for a supreme. If you want to make an elite(lvls 100-11 mill) i would suggest change your lvl to a 5 mill range or 9 mill...sry but the lvl 106999 sucks. Put your resists at 95(+255% to all EXCEPT MAGIC then +31 to all EXCEPT Magic) Then add different bocl of fire, light and cold absorbs till u cant be killed with a normal jav, make sure a poison jav dont kill ya either.
Ok, pa is possible with high lvls(lets say 1 mill or higher)
What u need, is abs... resist are not essential tough they enchance your abs...
Anyway, what you want is setting your abs so high with bocl that it will absorb any dmg(including magic dmg)
I dont know if u can do it on nox char tough.. due to the fact that there is no charms...
What you need is to test with about 20 charms with max fire,cold,lightning bocl(set to 63 for lvl 1 million, or less for higher lvl like 2 bill)
And then, ask someone to hit you.. if they dmg you, remove 1 charm... etc...
When you get a good value, his hits should heal you...
But even with pa, ppl can kill you with certain dmgs...
It may need lots of test tough...
Resistance & Absorb
Resistance blocks damage, while Absorb siphons damage. So lets say u r being delt 10k of magic damage.
If u have full resistance (immunity) u will receive minimal to no damage.
If u have neg resistance ull probably receive all of it + extra.
But if u have neg and high absorb ull absorb more damage than if u have pos resists.
>> The question is: which kicks in first Absorb or Resistance??
If Absorb activates first then having higher resist is better.
If Resist is first then lower resist is better, leaving more damage to be absorbed.
It just needs some EXPERIMENTATION
Yes you were right about the super absorb.
The lower your resist stats the higher your capable absorb stat gets. I got it to work well, thanx.
Well lests see for neg reists i use between -612 and -1360 or sumthin like that..
For Bocl Absorbs i only use a few on the rings and amulet (I think +63 for each one)
For regular absorbs i put them on my items and have a range from 800% to over 2k% absorbs
Its up to u to decide exactly how much u want on ur characters
Ok, here is what i use on my all 99's and it works perfectly:
+255 all resists
+255 magic res.
+31 all MAX res.
+100% red.pois.dur.
+127% absorbs fire/cold/light./magic
+63 bocl absorbs fire/cold/lightning
you can also try this one, but i think the first one works better...
-256[inds] all resists (repeated 1-4 times)
+100% red.pois.dur.
+100 absorbs fire/cold/light./magic
+100% absorbs fire/cold/light./magic
+63 bocl absorbs fire/cold/lightning
personally i dont really like to use bocl absorb for 99
i use neg resist (fire,light,cold, but poison is 95)
with 127 % absorb(fire,light,cold)and 127 (no %) absorb (fire, light,cold)
no you don't need to get all absorbs bocl, using Fire and Lightning is enough to get PA, you don't need to stick to the 4 elementals...
I also advice you to use Negative resistances(-256 - -512, using inds attributes), work at least as good as 95 to all resist
make a charm or some items with:
255 al resists
31% max
and PA is better because ur not just immune to it you absorb it. now add about 20 charms with diff values of fire and lightning on BoCl and add or take off until your about right. but numerous things will counter PA and PI. like - dmg so beware that if they get a - dmg then u had better have a diff set up waiting.
Have you ever found amazing bow absorbs only to find that they were not PA? And in order to make the bow abs pa you had to give up some of the range of the bow absorbs. My solution to this dilema was to create a 2 parts absorb system for some of my characters.
Here is how it works?
First find the best bow absorbs you can find. When you are testing your absorbs document the exact range of that absorb. Lets use a supreme as an example. Part 1 of aborbs bow damages from 1-2 dmg to say 900 mil dmg. However they are not pa . . aka immune to java dmg. What we do now is create Part2 which will give you immunity to jab java, psn java, lite java . . etc. We find another charm that gives pa. Once we find that charm the ranged of abs system part 1 will change. In some instances part 1 has less range and is much weaker to bow dmgs.
Solution:
Put the pa portion of your absorbs on a ring. Duel with only bow abs and if person chooses to switch to java . . counter that by slipping on the ring during your duel. If you'd like you can even put part 2 which gives you immunity to java on your shield so when your opponent uses java you switch to java/shield set up. The possibilities are endless.
Test:
I suggest that you accustom yourself to this type of set up and become very comfortable with it. Be sure that you can make this switch in a second because that is all the time you will get. In supreme duels most supremes dont have the same accuracy with a java as an elite does; so you will have more time to make switch. In elite duels; I usually put part 2 on a shield because im only 1 key stroke away from full pa set up.
Again, test test test. This is not for everyone but it certainly works for me. I hope it is helpful to others. Good Luck!!
from experience you can use Fire + Light, with a relative amount of fire : light ratio like so:
800mil fire : 380mil light
1 billion fire : 800mil light
remember, the minimum abs I've ever seen is 8 million (varying)
And the average elite damage, to kill PA, is either mid-high millions (500-700 million), or low negatives (100s of millions)
set your resists to 255 i prefer pos but some other ppl may say neg
make charm with between 1-63 bocl(based on character level) cold, fire, and lightning absorb ( Some ppl like to keep all the abs seperate like 1 charm has cold abs and the other has fire, or u can put them all on one charm its up to u to test it)
go into a public game or private with your friends..it up to u...and go duel add or subtract abs cahrms till you find a good abs..
there is 1 damage out that only a few know about it, that killd ALL 2 elemental absorbs with no more than 3 hits.
3 element absorbs are harder to kill, especially with supremes
Elite abs are much easier to find then super abs!
all it requires is that u Really take some time and make the 1-63 bocl charms because if you are not willing to put the time into it you will not succeed in making anything more useful than a 99 lol
So Get some friends Take yer charms and have them whoop up on you untill he/she thinks your abs are ready and o yea since there are ppl like Josh(Ownz[ALL]) out there make sure that u are protected vs Hydra,Orb,Thunder Storm,Psn javlin,Lightning Fury, and any other low damage elemnetals because ppl will become cheap and it wont hurt to be protected lol.
The things they dont teach you at Harvard about ABS!! Firstly, is this whole dmg that kills all 2 elements abs. Just one comment . . . Bull Shit!!! 2 abs elements and 3 abs elements have there pros and cons. As does low life vs high life. In elites I suggest you focus on GREAT PA because java attaks are the weapon of choice due to elite 95% chance to hit with java. Also getting hit with java puts your life to 1 instantly leaving you vulnerable to the ol 1-2 combo java then explosion arrow. I like low life on elites of say 4 mil because that life proves to counter all java attaks ie: psn java n lightening java . . . and even Josh's wonderful fire hydra attaks. [Too bad I didnt have marshmellows] Secondly, is the whole 2 elements vs 3 elements. All my chars use both set ups. The secret is to learn what dmg kills all your abs set ups. So if say your 3 elements abs die to low dmg; make a set of abs that abs low dmg; forcing your opponent to use high dmg.
Hmmm.....there is no doubt that 3 BOCL's are a better absorb, 2 absorbs combo pa blows, usually rolled over 1-2 damage destroys it rather easily...stay AWAYYYYY...here's the deal, fire/light is a melee absorb, works real well but is killed with thorns rather easily.....the best thing i find to do is to find a combo pa such as fire/light, then keep adding cold til you find another absorb with all three elements, so if someone has a damage that kills u, shell off the cold and bam another pa. This can sometimes be difficult to do, so keep switching levels around til u find it possible, i got an elite that works with any amount of lightning absorb when using FCL, and if i shell off fire i got a nifty cold/lightning absorb, try doing that. Also resists....use BOCL's, not maxes, max resists blow....high bocl resists blow bows better, while low bocl resists help absorbing melee...if res gets too high javs will eventually kill u.....
use 3 combo try using 50 bocl and a 13 bocl try mixing high abs with lower to find a good abs
if you're using 3 bocl elements try using the value 41 and 63, mine works with 1*41 + 1*63.
if you use cold damage you can kill a pa and if you use fire + light you can kill others.... its all different daamges.
Hey i have -40 to all resistances is this good??? Yes, as long as you have positive poison resistance and Fire/Cold/Lightning Absorb.
[Predator]:ok i have created 2 examples of how u can get some good res etc
The negative one will read a -250# but will actualy = -512 res and i have also thown in a + res charm
resists do act first but if those are turned negative absorbs will act first. I did a bit of testing with this, didnt find n e difference lol.
If u wish to use negative resists i would recommend having like -200 resists but theoratically even -1 would work.
The absorbs u need well... just use whats right for ya. If its a 99 i just use 779
For 99s...you can easily absorb any elemental dmg except poison. Simply make you resists -244 IND and use 100% absorb. This way, fire, light, and cold will heal you not hurt you. Poison cant be absorbed so you must have it positive and use poison length reduced by.
try 100% Poison Resist, 31% Max Poison Resit, and 100% Poison Length Reduced
you should try higher absorbs like 1000% so u absorb more elements, which will let u heal faster. for poison use high + resistances. like 2000% and ur psn dmg reduce too.
ya need Resist All for PA
Ranged absorb does kinda make sense. The bowazon was probably talking about bow absorb/ missile absorb. The settings are usually a bit different than PA.
Use absorbs BOCL (based on char level) That should get you good abs.. only use the plain # abs on 99s. Fire/Lite combo works very well getting PA. I suggest to start out make charms with 50-63 bocl fire and lite. Dont put them both on same charm! Then test until you get PA. I usually use 2/1, 3/1, 3/2, 5/3 (fire/lite respectively) to get good PA. Hope this help and happy testing!
Using absorbs BOCL (Based on character lvl), having your life between 4.5 mill and 6.2 mill, and using low resists.
But, all your absorbs should be on charms. Different elements I mean like fire/lite, fire/cold, cold/lite, fire/cold/lite.
For beginers to PA use fire and light. its the easiest.
Fire and light will do better against higher damage as i found out. cold and light will make good pa if right tested with but if the opponent uses all elements for dmg then you will not absorb any dmg.i prefer all three but i use more cold then light and more fire then all of em.it is like unstoppable.
someone asked me if they could have one of my pa charms so I gave one, it has to to all resistances, and absorbs bocl. Then he asked: "Wheres the PA on the charm"
I told him the PA doesent show up on the items, it's just there.
if your trying to get your resists to 95 % do a charm that does 255 to all res (fire,cold,lightning,poison) then do a +31 to max res and it'll show on screen as 95 to all resists. For the absorbs when i made elites i did all my absorbs based on character lvl.
Pa means physical absorbs. What we are looking for is your life to drop to 1 vs melee weapons such as a javelin. After your life drops to 1 you will notice your life start to trickle up. That is PA. That does not mean you will absorb everyones damage or be invincible. That means you have taken a step in the right direction for improving your character.
There are no perfect absorbs and there are no perfect damages. Each are the same thing turned inside out. I suggest you find 1 set of absorbs that are good vs low damage like 2 elements [ie fire n lite] absorbs. Than create counter absorbs of say 3 elements in case you need to absorbs high damages. The trick is flexiblity and improvisation. That is how you win duels.
ive always used fire/lite abs, but its been broken too many times already so im trying to find a good 3 elem pa these days
and now im wondering which element i should put the most; which element i should put second most, and which elem i should put the least.
simply add +1 cold no bocl, +1 cold would make your PA instant 3 element. Thus broken by a different damage.